Serious question....

Jigman · 08-09-2006, 06:31 AM

Are canoes boats

If so, does the "boat fish don't count" rule still apply? Would a sand sissy need to add sand to the inside of the canoe to make it safe for him to fish from? Figured this would be a good topic for the trainwreck crew

Jigman

Striperknight · 08-09-2006, 07:34 AM

Its a boat.

tattoobob · 08-09-2006, 10:13 AM

It is a boat and fish caught from a canoe/kayak/small tin do count in my book
ever get towed around by a good fish in a small boat it is a blast

Diamond Tackle · 08-09-2006, 11:34 AM

I think you get some kind of partial credit for a canoe or Kayak caught fish.
just kidding

but seriously, ANY fish you >>>>WORKED FOR<<<< COUNTS.
for example
IF you GEAR UP, kayak out off the beach say 1/4-1/2 mile out,proceed to locate bait, and then bag a 50# slob with say a live bunker, it counts , as much as I now hate live bunker fishing. My biggest bass was on a live bunker too,so yes maybe there is an internal conflict there.
IF I had caught that same bass on a Plug, say at night, by myself, in bad weather to boot, standing on a rock at Montauk braving the elements, I would be bragging about it every single day, but since it was on live bait off a bridge, its really not much to brag about.
back to the boat Question.

IMO, heres the perfect "it dont count scenario"

You are a self proclaimed "surf fisherman" and you visit all the SURF FISHING sites we all do. Everyone knows your online name.

You book a trip with Capt Mc Gillicutty, on the Kitty paw out of Cape whatever.You bring your coworkers or buddies along to split the charter fare.

The good capt proceeds to,
1)- takes you out to his favorite bass spots,he had done all the homework and u are clueless to where you even are, u did no homework whatsoever, in fact you dont even know the tide or the moon phase. U made the reservation, thats it.
2)- The Capt provides all the bait ,rods, everything, maybe he even baits the hook for you too (then youre definitely automatically disqualified)
3)- You hook into a "fish of a lifetime" say a 55# bass. You land the fish, but the capt even gaffed it for you and also gave you some instructions while fighting the fish or you would have lost it for sure

THEN, you go back to Striper********** .com or whatever site.
and you BRAG about the fish of a lifetime you were so skillful in catching. You got Pictures and all, smiling faces, beer cans in the cooler, celebratory cigars, the works. You are even claiming that you are now officially in the 50# club.
YOU ARE A DILLIDOCK.
You did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to earn that fish.
and your pictures dont impress me, and if you kept that fish, you impress me even less. That fish does not count at all, ESP when you brag about it on a SURF fishing site. Im not interested in your catch.
IF this offends anyone
TOUGH.
Go stand on a jetty, Rock or a sandbar for a couple hours, then no matter what the size of your catch was, I will congratulate you. Cause you EARNED IT.

Striperknight · 08-09-2006, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TinMan

I think you get some kind of partial credit for a canoe or Kayak caught fish.
just kidding

but seriously, ANY fish you >>>>WORKED FOR<<<< COUNTS.
for example
IF you GEAR UP, kayak out off the beach say 1/4-1/2 mile out,proceed to locate bait, and then bag a 50# slob with say a live bunker, it counts , as much as I now hate live bunker fishing. My biggest bass was on a live bunker too,so yes maybe there is an internal conflict there.
IF I had caught that same bass on a Plug, say at night, by myself, in bad weather to boot, standing on a rock at Montauk braving the elements, I would be bragging about it every single day, but since it was on live bait off a bridge, its really not much to brag about.
back to the boat Question.

IMO, heres the perfect "it dont count scenario"

You are a self proclaimed "surf fisherman" and you visit all the SURF FISHING sites we all do. Everyone knows your online name.

You book a trip with Capt Mc Gillicutty, on the Kitty paw out of Cape whatever.You bring your coworkers or buddies along to split the charter fare.

The good capt proceeds to,
1)- takes you out to his favorite bass spots,he had done all the homework and u are clueless to where you even are, u did no homework whatsoever, in fact you dont even know the tide or the moon phase. U made the reservation, thats it.
2)- The Capt provides all the bait ,rods, everything, maybe he even baits the hook for you too (then youre definitely automatically disqualified)
3)- You hook into a "fish of a lifetime" say a 55# bass. You land the fish, but the capt even gaffed it for you and also gave you some instructions while fighting the fish or you would have lost it for sure

THEN, you go back to Striper********** .com or whatever site.
and you BRAG about the fish of a lifetime you were so skillful in catching. You got Pictures and all, smiling faces, beer cans in the cooler, celebratory cigars, the works. You are even claiming that you are now officially in the 50# club.
YOU ARE A DILLIDOCK.
You did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to earn that fish.
and your pictures dont impress me, and if you kept that fish, you impress me even less. That fish does not count at all, ESP when you brag about it on a SURF fishing site. Im not interested in your catch.
IF this offends anyone
TOUGH.
Go stand on a jetty, Rock or a sandbar for a couple hours, then no matter what the size of your catch was, I will congratulate you. Cause you EARNED IT.

If you catch a 55# Bass on a spinning reel are you considered a DillyDOCK?

Dillydock - that word cracks me up.

NJTackle · 08-09-2006, 01:22 PM

I'm a pineapple!!!

Jigman · 08-09-2006, 01:52 PM

Man, and I thought that I could count on the trainwreck crew to really take off on this one

Can't believe I actually got a few reasonable responses. How bout I sort of mention that I posted this to bust someone else's balls and have a little fun at his expense

Ummm, ok, carry on....

Jigman

Diamond Tackle · 08-09-2006, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Striperknight

If you catch a 55# Bass on a spinning reel are you considered a DillyDOCK?

Dillydock - that word cracks me up.

UUU crack me up.

of course it counts on a spin reel reel.
as long its on a Penn or a Van Staal.

everyone knows that.

tattoobob · 08-09-2006, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TinMan

I think you get some kind of partial credit for a canoe or Kayak caught fish.
just kidding

but seriously, ANY fish you >>>>WORKED FOR<<<< COUNTS.
for example
IF you GEAR UP, kayak out off the beach say 1/4-1/2 mile out,proceed to locate bait, and then bag a 50# slob with say a live bunker, it counts , as much as I now hate live bunker fishing. My biggest bass was on a live bunker too,so yes maybe there is an internal conflict there.
IF I had caught that same bass on a Plug, say at night, by myself, in bad weather to boot, standing on a rock at Montauk braving the elements, I would be bragging about it every single day, but since it was on live bait off a bridge, its really not much to brag about.
back to the boat Question.

IMO, heres the perfect "it dont count scenario"

You are a self proclaimed "surf fisherman" and you visit all the SURF FISHING sites we all do. Everyone knows your online name.

You book a trip with Capt Mc Gillicutty, on the Kitty paw out of Cape whatever.You bring your coworkers or buddies along to split the charter fare.

The good capt proceeds to,
1)- takes you out to his favorite bass spots,he had done all the homework and u are clueless to where you even are, u did no homework whatsoever, in fact you dont even know the tide or the moon phase. U made the reservation, thats it.
2)- The Capt provides all the bait ,rods, everything, maybe he even baits the hook for you too (then youre definitely automatically disqualified)
3)- You hook into a "fish of a lifetime" say a 55# bass. You land the fish, but the capt even gaffed it for you and also gave you some instructions while fighting the fish or you would have lost it for sure

THEN, you go back to Striper********** .com or whatever site.
and you BRAG about the fish of a lifetime you were so skillful in catching. You got Pictures and all, smiling faces, beer cans in the cooler, celebratory cigars, the works. You are even claiming that you are now officially in the 50# club.
YOU ARE A DILLIDOCK.
You did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to earn that fish.
and your pictures dont impress me, and if you kept that fish, you impress me even less. That fish does not count at all, ESP when you brag about it on a SURF fishing site. Im not interested in your catch.
IF this offends anyone
TOUGH.
Go stand on a jetty, Rock or a sandbar for a couple hours, then no matter what the size of your catch was, I will congratulate you. Cause you EARNED IT.

Very well put John, I don't usually read long post because it is a waste of my time, I know you know what you are talking about.

Live lining bait is a credable and fun way to catch big bass it is like saying it doesn't count if you catch a big fish on a live eel. it all counts even dead sticking

saltybugger · 08-09-2006, 08:42 PM

Norby I got an itch will you scratch it for me

Ratty · 08-10-2006, 06:21 PM

Just to clear things up...Jiggy was busting on ME cause last night I picked up my first CANOE

....Tommorrow my son, JP, and I are going for the maiden voyage

....

With gas prices being what they are and the shore scene being hit or miss , it made more sense , to me , to get the canoe, spend time with the kids fishing locally, freshwater, then resuming on the striper quest during the fall...That's my AGENDA.

FIRE AWAY....

Diamond Tackle · 08-10-2006, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Ratt Boy

Just to clear things up...Jiggy was busting on ME cause last night I picked up my first CANOE

....Tommorrow my son, JP, and I are going for the maiden voyage

....

With gas prices being what they are and the shore scene being hit or miss , it made more sense , to me , to get the canoe, spend time with the kids fishing locally, freshwater, then resuming on the striper quest during the fall...That's my AGENDA.

FIRE AWAY....

For Obvious reasons, Any fish that you catch while spending some quality time with your son,daughter, nephew,niece, GF, wife , or significant other, AUTOMATICALLY COUNTS DOUBLE.

and, if you take some pics , well then u are elevated to an even higher level.
I Cant wait to take my little nephew out one day.
Hope you have a great time and score some Large.

tattoobob · 08-10-2006, 07:54 PM

I was also thinking of doing a little sweet water Bass fishing in the canoe
I used to live on a lake and be out there every night now I just pull crab
grass all night. Good luck on your first run

Jigman · 08-10-2006, 08:09 PM

Can't say that I blame you. Some fun freshwater fishing to be had too. Small boats and canoes can get you to many places larger boats can't go. Oh, and those poppers you make, they work just fine for smallies and largemouth ;) Hope the Maiden

voyage goes well

Jigman

Ratty · 08-10-2006, 08:40 PM

Thanks guys, The spot we're going to is actually a trophy trout pond. I choose to go there, one , because there are no motor boats allowed, so no yahoo's buzzing us , and two because it is one of the cleanest and most beautiful places I've ever fished and want JP to enjoy it. It's been YEARS since I've been in a canoe and the first time for JP, so we're just gonna take it SLOW and enjoy the day..If we do get fish that will be a bonus

Once we get used to the canoe there are lots of LMB places to hit.

I'm really excited, and I know JP is to...

Good luck to you guys this weekend, if yer heading out.

Striperknight · 08-11-2006, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Ratt Boy

Thanks guys, The spot we're going to is actually a trophy trout pond. I choose to go there, one , because there are no motor boats allowed, so no yahoo's buzzing us , and two because it is one of the cleanest and most beautiful places I've ever fished and want JP to enjoy it. It's been YEARS since I've been in a canoe and the first time for JP, so we're just gonna take it SLOW and enjoy the day..If we do get fish that will be a bonus

Once we get used to the canoe there are lots of LMB places to hit.

I'm really excited, and I know JP is to...

Good luck to you guys this weekend, if yer heading out.

I've been doing a lot of Freshwater in the last month.
I have a lake close by that I've been catching perch, and LMB.
Its been a lot of fun.

Ratty · 08-12-2006, 06:57 PM

Well, the first outting was a SUCCESS !! JP had a ball , we got to see how the new canoe works and caught a lot of lmb. I was really pleased with the stability of the canoe and I don't know how many times JP said, this is soo cool and to top it off he caught all the big bass while dad pulled in all the twinkies

. we got on the water around 8 am and didn't get the canoe back on the truck till after 5 pm...needless to say, we both slept well last night. It was a picture perfect day, water was like glass and slight wind keep bugs away. The water was SOOOO warm that not one trout was seen, I'm guessing they were all on bottom , in the middle of the pond, nice cool water , while the bass were all in the skinny water on the banks of the pond. During our pb&j lunch JP tossed some of his bread into the water to sun fish and it started a feeding frenzy, I'm not kidding , about a hundred of the little bugger's attacked the bread like pirrannah's , it was cool to see.

Bottom line , it was a perfect father / son day...

tattoobob · 08-12-2006, 07:38 PM

That's great, I am glad you guys had a good day and caught
plenty of fish, I think I am going to take my Daughter out.
after I do some gear maintenance.

Jigman · 08-12-2006, 08:54 PM

Sounds like the perfect way to break in the new canoe

Congrats to both of you. I'm sure you'll both have plenty of great memories with the canoe.

Sooo, guess you now have an even better reason to finish up the basement...so you can start working on making some custom freshie stuff for you guys to throw

Jigman

Ratty · 08-13-2006, 07:40 PM

Freshie / saltie

Yeah, I wanna be like you when I grow up...

Jigman · 08-14-2006, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Ratt Boy

...Yeah, I wanna be like you when I grow up...

I never grew up, why should you

Jigman

Ratty · 08-14-2006, 04:30 PM

Sounds good to me...

New freshie rods came today , man, these things are NICE ...Eagle fish rods 6'6" fuji guides, cork handles, one piece , with Cabela's Tournement ZX reels ( yup, they got GOLD in them and pearled on them) made for Cabela's by Diawa. WAAAAY to nice a set up for a twelve year old , ah , he's a good kid , why not spoil him?

Now he's mad cause i'm painting in the basement , instead of paddling him around...I CAN'T win...

Jigman · 08-14-2006, 07:16 PM

Hey JP, see that extra paint brush over there, thats yours. The faster we get this basement painted right, the faster we get back on the water. Tomorrow you learn how to thru-drill a plug

Jigman

Ratty · 08-14-2006, 07:48 PM

" painted right "

That means no one else but dad does it....you know he's at that, "it's good enough age"

Have you been getting any smallies??? I gotta find some smallie spots around here.

Jigman · 08-15-2006, 05:23 PM

Creek fishing for smallies has been surprisingly good for the last 4 or 5 weeks. 10-20 smallies a trip and upto a dozen redeye/sunfish to boot. Been getting a bunch on some smaller jig cranks.

jm_small16.jpg

16 inch smallie from last weekend on a crank. Not bad for a small creek

Jigman

08-09-2006, 06:31 AM	#1 (permalink)
Jigman Got Lead Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Spooning with a bluefish vomit pencil Posts: 743	Serious question.... Are canoes boats If so, does the "boat fish don't count" rule still apply? Would a sand sissy need to add sand to the inside of the canoe to make it safe for him to fish from? Figured this would be a good topic for the trainwreck crew Jigman __________________ So many fumes, I done forgot what my agenda was

08-09-2006, 07:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
Striperknight Plug Paladin Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: A castle in a far away land Posts: 1,388	Its a boat. __________________ Trainwreck Crew member #1.

08-09-2006, 10:13 AM	#3 (permalink)
tattoobob Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 619	It is a boat and fish caught from a canoe/kayak/small tin do count in my book ever get towed around by a good fish in a small boat it is a blast __________________ Surfcasting Full Throttle

08-09-2006, 11:34 AM	#4 (permalink)
Diamond Tackle Tin - The OTHER White Meat! Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,199	I think you get some kind of partial credit for a canoe or Kayak caught fish. just kidding but seriously, ANY fish you >>>>WORKED FOR<<<< COUNTS. for example IF you GEAR UP, kayak out off the beach say 1/4-1/2 mile out,proceed to locate bait, and then bag a 50# slob with say a live bunker, it counts , as much as I now hate live bunker fishing. My biggest bass was on a live bunker too,so yes maybe there is an internal conflict there. IF I had caught that same bass on a Plug, say at night, by myself, in bad weather to boot, standing on a rock at Montauk braving the elements, I would be bragging about it every single day, but since it was on live bait off a bridge, its really not much to brag about. back to the boat Question. IMO, heres the perfect "it dont count scenario" You are a self proclaimed "surf fisherman" and you visit all the SURF FISHING sites we all do. Everyone knows your online name. You book a trip with Capt Mc Gillicutty, on the Kitty paw out of Cape whatever.You bring your coworkers or buddies along to split the charter fare. The good capt proceeds to, 1)- takes you out to his favorite bass spots,he had done all the homework and u are clueless to where you even are, u did no homework whatsoever, in fact you dont even know the tide or the moon phase. U made the reservation, thats it. 2)- The Capt provides all the bait ,rods, everything, maybe he even baits the hook for you too (then youre definitely automatically disqualified) 3)- You hook into a "fish of a lifetime" say a 55# bass. You land the fish, but the capt even gaffed it for you and also gave you some instructions while fighting the fish or you would have lost it for sure THEN, you go back to Striper********** .com or whatever site. and you BRAG about the fish of a lifetime you were so skillful in catching. You got Pictures and all, smiling faces, beer cans in the cooler, celebratory cigars, the works. You are even claiming that you are now officially in the 50# club. YOU ARE A DILLIDOCK. You did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to earn that fish. and your pictures dont impress me, and if you kept that fish, you impress me even less. That fish does not count at all, ESP when you brag about it on a SURF fishing site. Im not interested in your catch. IF this offends anyone TOUGH. Go stand on a jetty, Rock or a sandbar for a couple hours, then no matter what the size of your catch was, I will congratulate you. Cause you EARNED IT. __________________ www.diamondtackle.com tinman@njtackle.com

08-09-2006, 01:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
NJTackle #1 Plug Building Supply Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Point Pleasant, NJ Posts: 1,376	I'm a pineapple!!! __________________

08-09-2006, 01:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
Jigman Got Lead Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Spooning with a bluefish vomit pencil Posts: 743	Man, and I thought that I could count on the trainwreck crew to really take off on this one Can't believe I actually got a few reasonable responses. How bout I sort of mention that I posted this to bust someone else's balls and have a little fun at his expense Ummm, ok, carry on.... Jigman __________________ So many fumes, I done forgot what my agenda was

08-09-2006, 08:42 PM	#10 (permalink)
saltybugger I Love Gay Porn! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,327	Norby I got an itch will you scratch it for me

08-10-2006, 06:21 PM	#11 (permalink)
Ratty Eddie is out, Wally is in Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Too far from the water... Posts: 970	Just to clear things up...Jiggy was busting on ME cause last night I picked up my first CANOE ....Tommorrow my son, JP, and I are going for the maiden voyage .... With gas prices being what they are and the shore scene being hit or miss , it made more sense , to me , to get the canoe, spend time with the kids fishing locally, freshwater, then resuming on the striper quest during the fall...That's my AGENDA. FIRE AWAY.... __________________ Surfcasting is NOT a crime. Littering is.

08-10-2006, 07:54 PM	#13 (permalink)
tattoobob Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 619	I was also thinking of doing a little sweet water Bass fishing in the canoe I used to live on a lake and be out there every night now I just pull crab grass all night. Good luck on your first run __________________ Surfcasting Full Throttle

08-10-2006, 08:09 PM	#14 (permalink)
Jigman Got Lead Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Spooning with a bluefish vomit pencil Posts: 743	Can't say that I blame you. Some fun freshwater fishing to be had too. Small boats and canoes can get you to many places larger boats can't go. Oh, and those poppers you make, they work just fine for smallies and largemouth ;) Hope the Maiden voyage goes well Jigman __________________ So many fumes, I done forgot what my agenda was

08-10-2006, 08:40 PM	#15 (permalink)
Ratty Eddie is out, Wally is in Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Too far from the water... Posts: 970	Thanks guys, The spot we're going to is actually a trophy trout pond. I choose to go there, one , because there are no motor boats allowed, so no yahoo's buzzing us , and two because it is one of the cleanest and most beautiful places I've ever fished and want JP to enjoy it. It's been YEARS since I've been in a canoe and the first time for JP, so we're just gonna take it SLOW and enjoy the day..If we do get fish that will be a bonus Once we get used to the canoe there are lots of LMB places to hit. I'm really excited, and I know JP is to... Good luck to you guys this weekend, if yer heading out. __________________ Surfcasting is NOT a crime. Littering is.

08-12-2006, 06:57 PM	#17 (permalink)
Ratty Eddie is out, Wally is in Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Too far from the water... Posts: 970	Well, the first outting was a SUCCESS !! JP had a ball , we got to see how the new canoe works and caught a lot of lmb. I was really pleased with the stability of the canoe and I don't know how many times JP said, this is soo cool and to top it off he caught all the big bass while dad pulled in all the twinkies . we got on the water around 8 am and didn't get the canoe back on the truck till after 5 pm...needless to say, we both slept well last night. It was a picture perfect day, water was like glass and slight wind keep bugs away. The water was SOOOO warm that not one trout was seen, I'm guessing they were all on bottom , in the middle of the pond, nice cool water , while the bass were all in the skinny water on the banks of the pond. During our pb&j lunch JP tossed some of his bread into the water to sun fish and it started a feeding frenzy, I'm not kidding , about a hundred of the little bugger's attacked the bread like pirrannah's , it was cool to see. Bottom line , it was a perfect father / son day... __________________ Surfcasting is NOT a crime. Littering is.

08-12-2006, 07:38 PM	#18 (permalink)
tattoobob Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 619	That's great, I am glad you guys had a good day and caught plenty of fish, I think I am going to take my Daughter out. after I do some gear maintenance. __________________ Surfcasting Full Throttle

08-12-2006, 08:54 PM	#19 (permalink)
Jigman Got Lead Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Spooning with a bluefish vomit pencil Posts: 743	Sounds like the perfect way to break in the new canoe Congrats to both of you. I'm sure you'll both have plenty of great memories with the canoe. Sooo, guess you now have an even better reason to finish up the basement...so you can start working on making some custom freshie stuff for you guys to throw Jigman __________________ So many fumes, I done forgot what my agenda was

08-13-2006, 07:40 PM	#20 (permalink)
Ratty Eddie is out, Wally is in Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Too far from the water... Posts: 970	Freshie / saltie Yeah, I wanna be like you when I grow up... __________________ Surfcasting is NOT a crime. Littering is.

08-14-2006, 04:30 PM	#22 (permalink)
Ratty Eddie is out, Wally is in Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Too far from the water... Posts: 970	Sounds good to me... New freshie rods came today , man, these things are NICE ...Eagle fish rods 6'6" fuji guides, cork handles, one piece , with Cabela's Tournement ZX reels ( yup, they got GOLD in them and pearled on them) made for Cabela's by Diawa. WAAAAY to nice a set up for a twelve year old , ah , he's a good kid , why not spoil him? Now he's mad cause i'm painting in the basement , instead of paddling him around...I CAN'T win... __________________ Surfcasting is NOT a crime. Littering is.

08-14-2006, 07:16 PM	#23 (permalink)
Jigman Got Lead Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Spooning with a bluefish vomit pencil Posts: 743	Hey JP, see that extra paint brush over there, thats yours. The faster we get this basement painted right, the faster we get back on the water. Tomorrow you learn how to thru-drill a plug Jigman __________________ So many fumes, I done forgot what my agenda was

08-14-2006, 07:48 PM	#24 (permalink)
Ratty Eddie is out, Wally is in Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Too far from the water... Posts: 970	" painted right " That means no one else but dad does it....you know he's at that, "it's good enough age" Have you been getting any smallies??? I gotta find some smallie spots around here. __________________ Surfcasting is NOT a crime. Littering is.

08-15-2006, 05:23 PM	#25 (permalink)
Jigman Got Lead Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Spooning with a bluefish vomit pencil Posts: 743	Creek fishing for smallies has been surprisingly good for the last 4 or 5 weeks. 10-20 smallies a trip and upto a dozen redeye/sunfish to boot. Been getting a bunch on some smaller jig cranks. jm_small16.jpg 16 inch smallie from last weekend on a crank. Not bad for a small creek Jigman __________________ So many fumes, I done forgot what my agenda was

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